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The following is a class given by His Holiness Jayapataka Swami Maharaja on December 14th, 1982 in Honolulu, Hawaii.

Jayapataka Swami:

…now come to the West to try to get purified by participating in the marathon, actually we know that there are three things that Prabhupada liked most of all, he said that he specifically liked… I don’t know like is not the right word. I can’t think of the proper adjective at this moment, but that he held above all other things. First thing was distributing his big books, getting his books distributed. Second was… another thing was the… his projects in India, and then one other thing was preaching in the Communist and Muslim countries: High-risk preaching, these were the very dear… very dear types of preaching to Srila Prabhupada, so we’ve had some experience of the Indian projects, and with some Communist and Muslim preaching, but we hadn’t… recently, because when I was in America there were no big books, so we just had Back to Godhead and few things like that up to 1970 when I went to India so this will be nice experience trying to help the distributors.

Anyway I asked Narahari Maharaha what I should speak on tonight. He said, “Well, we have the Panca-Tattva, we should say something about… we haven’t heard anything about Gadhadar or Srivas very much, so of course that won’t directly be about book distribution, but I asked him whether I should talk about how Gadadhara Prabhu met his guru, Pundarika Vidyanidhi, said he didn’t think that he’d ever heard about that, so I could say that, because actually I just came… Probably it’s fresh in my mind because I just came from Bangladesh which is the birthplace of Pundarika Vidyanidhi he is the third branch of Lord Caitanya’s tree, I believe, and he is very… I forget, either the third or the seventh, but anyway he is one of the major branches and he was born near Chittagong which is the far border of Bengal and what was very nice is that the local residents of that place who are managing the temple , I brought a picture there… so Raghava prabhu, we have some pictures of the temple they built. They had completed their temple so they gifted the whole property over to ISCKON front organization there, and they are cooperating a lot for developing that as a very nice Krishna conscious center. There are 2 or 3.000 people just there for a festival.

So, actually in ISKCON we are hoping that in the future there will be…. we will be able to bring many devotees over when we have the festival or some pandal, well be able to fly them over to Chittagong, because one person who had just left his body who helped to catalyze the whole thing he had the vision that people will coming from all over the world to see Pundarika dhama, so actually would it be nice to bring in devotees in to this Muslim country. In that little corner is a very ideal situation that in spite of being a Muslim country that is the most concentrated place of Hindus and all the Hindus are basically devotees of Lord Caitanya, and 90%... but 35% Hindu population and 10% Buddhist, so the Muslim fanaticism is a little reduced in that part of Bangladesh so it is a good place and if you bring in devotees to see , it is a place of pilgrimage that even the Muslims can appreciate as tourism. So, anyway that’s not really to do with the history. History goes back of course five hundred years when Lord Caitanya was in Navadvipa.

You know that Gadadhara was a lifelong brahmacari, a very strict, very austere and he was a brahmana, he was a student he was a scholar, but he was engaged in different type of devotional services, so there he was engaged in Navadvipa he was a little yonger, Srivas was older, and one day at the Srivasangana, Lord Caitanya was dancing in kirtan, suddenly He looked towards the East and He started to cry out, “Pundarik, Pundarik, Pundarik” and He started feeling ecstatic symptoms, and the devotees, you know, gathered around him, but then no one knew who he was talking about. Suddenly He stopped calling out and He started the kirtan up again. Later someone asked “Who is Pundarik?”

and Lord Caitanya said: “He is a great devotee , he is coming, he is coming, you’ll be able to see him.”

So there are references in Caitanya Bhagavata, different places, how Lord Caitanya had a great esteem for Pundarika Vidyanidhi. Pundarika Vidyanidhi himself, well actually he was a, they call it zamindar means like a kind of like a king, sub-king big landord he was in that type of family so he had, just like Bhaktivinoda Thakura was a magistrate, he was a land lord, he was not a land lord of a little apartment building, but over a whole state, so it’s like a type of king, like maybe like in Europe they call it Duke or Earl or something like that, he was of that type of social standing, he was very high standing, but he was a pure devotee of Krishna, so naturally when he was moving about to maintain certain social requirements he had to dress nicely and he carried himself in a certain way, but he always wore tilak and neckbeads and he was doing worship and he organized in such a way that even today after 500 years even in spite of the Mohammadan rule in that area all the people are very devoted to Lord Caitanya.

So that definitely that tradition… because Narottama Dasa Thakura preached in north Bengal, and then his followers went to as far as Manipur, but specifically Pundarika and other great devotees they were preaching in the southern Burmese border of Bengal and we have to give them the maximum credit for the fact that Krishna consciousness is still established there amongst the followers of Vedic civilization. So Mukunda Datta and Vasudeva Datta were born within a half a mile of Pundarika Vidyanidhi’s birth place all of them in the same area. So when Pundarik actually came to Navadvipa, Mukunda who is one of the kirtan members in Lord Caitanya… when we sing…kiba jaya jaya in the arati, there’s Mukunda vasudeva… vasu ghosa adi-kari others. So this Mukunda was one of the intimate devotees of Lord Caitanya. He was also a little older, not so much older, little older, but he was almost a contemporary with Gadadhara, so, in terms of age and otherwise.

So when Pundarik came then he told Gadadhara: “There’s a great devotee come. Why don’t you come and meet Pundarik, so there was some… because Lord Caitanya had mentioned his name, and Gadadhara was always anxious to meet the devotees and serve the Vaisnavas and to get their association and hear from them, so he said, “Yes why not, of course this is a good opportunity for me.” And the… Pundarik when he would travel around, as I mentioned he was a little opulent, so when Gadadhara who was very austere brahmacari, when he went to see Pundarika Vidyanidhi with Mukunda they went into the place. He had bought a house in Navadvipa, so that he could be near Lord Caitanya, he came in and he payed his obeisances and looked around, and there he saw that there were big brass lamps very opulent brass. Golden polish. Lamp… ghee lamps, silken wall hangings and he was sitting on a big… there was a big cusion all silk and there were two people fanning him with camaras (laughs), he was decked out you know, in really fancy silks and someone was putting scented oil in his hair (laughs), and he was sitting there chanting japa (devotees laughing). So, Gadadhara looked around and saw the whole situation and thought, “You know…”

Mukunda meanwhile was introducing: “That this is Gadadhara one of the devotees of Lord Caitanya. This is Pundarika Vidyanidhi.” They were introducing, in the meantime Gadadhara was thinking that, “Maybe hes not really that pure of a devotee, or maybe he is a little materialistically attached or something. (devotees laughing) Seems to be a little bit oveboard.” He had, some little doubts came to his mind, you know, when he see… saw the uh… I mean just I mean it was really opulent situation, you know… rings and everything. So I mean uh, he started to get a little doubtful that “Maybe I wasn’t brought really to the right place (laughs) that I expected.” You see. Some doubt came in.

So Mukunda, Mukunda is very expert. The whole thing about Mukunda, why they always glorify Mukunda in the kirtan is because he was expert at realizing the mood of the devotees. Just like someone who serves prasada, you always see the senior devotees serve prasada in Lord Caitanya’s group, because knowing which prasada the devotees wanted, what time, it’s very… you have to be very sensitive. A person’s thinking about “When I’m gonna eat?” Then he’s not gonna be able to serve. You have to be thinking about how to serve the others. So in the same way Mukunda was a kirtan singer that he would pick up the mood of Lord Caitanya, pick up the mood of the devotees, and then one day he would insert in… within the Harinama certain tune, or a certain bhajana which was just tuned to the mood of Lord Caitanya which would increase His rasa, so many times and that’s why he was very, very prominent in all the kirtan, because he was very sensitive to the mood of the different devotees.

So he could immediately pick up the mood of Gadadhara which coming… already, you know, you could see that, it wasn’t… you know that faith wasn’t flowing, he was being bewildered by the superficial vision, so then Mukunda he immediately said: “Well, Pundarik. He has a very strong attachment for Lord Krishna.” And then he just immediately started singing a bhajan… quoting from the Sanskrit from the Bhagavatam about the pastime of Putana, how Putana was delivered, and when he heard this…

[aside]

Before I told this?

When he started to describe that lila — how Putana had come put the poison on her breast came and took the baby Krishna to kill Him and then Krishna instead said: “Oh this is My mother.” And then elevates her to the position in Vaikuntha of being a mother of Krish… and started glorifying Krishna in this way. As soon as he started to glorify, at that time immediately, Pundarik he completely… he became so mad for Krishna, he said: “I’m so fallen! Oh Krishna! You are so kind that even you delivered Putana, you delivered a witch and I am so rotten. I’m so en…” and then he started ripping his clothes and pounding and rolling. He completely went mad. I mean it was… it wasn’t like, we always say about sahajiyas, but it was a real thing, it was prema-bhakti. It was completely… he just went mad right on the spot, ripping and rolling around he became completely uh, just filled with uh… with uh, devotion and humility and everything in relation to Krishna so… so intensely that he was beating himself and ripping his cloth up, and knocking the things over and just… he becam… because he… and Mukunda kept you know, pounding it further and further.

One more sloka. One more thing of glorifying Krishna’s mercy, thinking, “I have no appreciation for Krishna! I have no devotion for Krishna! Kri…” and he was just you know, getting out of it. Finally, Mukunda then let it cool down. (laughs) You know, before it was… once… as soon as he heard about Krishna, he could see, immediately Pundarik was locked in. There was not another thought. There was not… he just became completely absorbed in that, and then Gadadhara was (inaudible), “Did I make a mistake! I mean, I completely miss.. misunderstood this person, he was… this person is… you could see that he was completely absorbed in Krishna consciousness that the external thing had nothing to do with his real… where his mind was was completely in Krishna consciousness.”
So in this way Gadadhara was feeling that “I committed a Vaishnava aparadha, I came in here without even, just seeing the superficial, without knowing who he was, without knowing, I just immediately judged him on the basis of his superficial situation. Now I am guilty of a vaishnava aparadha. I’m not gonna get Krishna prema, I’m not going to get devotion, I am going to be able to advance in Krishna consciousness how to rectify this?”

He was thinking like that, he told Mukunda that, “I made this offense, actually I was doubting Pundarika Vidyanidhi but I could see that he was actually…” of course, in Krishna consciousness, we don’t stress these… what happened was that in the pure devotees of Lord Caitanya, this type of manifestations of Krishna-prema where quite evident then what happened, unscrupulous people later on, they would imitate those real symptoms.

Without real symptoms, they would imitate these symptoms to get cheap followers and therefore Bhaktivinoda Thakura or Bhaktisidanta Saraswati Thakura and Srila Prabhupada, they had to stress, the uh… that… to not look at these symptoms anymore, because of this tendency. Now it’s… Kali yuga is advanced, they try to imitate them. To look rather at anubhavas sym… other symptoms mentioned in Caitanya-Caritamrita, which are like always being engaged in Krishna consciousness, always being enthusiastic to serve Krishna, being completely absorbed in preaching, in serving things, things… other anubhavas not wasting any time, not being attached when you lose something materially or becoming over elated when gain something materially, things like… there are certain different symptoms that are there called anubhavas which are recommended we should be more conscious of. Nonetheless, these other symptoms, Gadadhara was a very advanced devotee he could tell if someone was putting on something, so this was a completely spontaneous reaction, so he was telling Mukunda that, “I committed some offense. I was doubting Pundarika Vidyanidhi. Actually I see he is very attached to Krishna, and uh, I mean… he’s a pure devotee but I was seeing the material situation. For some reason Krishna has given him this opulence and he is using it in the service of Krishna, but I doubted him. Now how to get out of this offense? I’m thinking that maybe the only way to get out of this offense is if he accepts me as a disciple, because a guru never takes offense from a disciple very easily. Easily forgives the disciple, so maybe if I, how I’m gonna get out of this, maybe this is one way I can get out of the offense is if I accept initiation from him, then that offense will be negated. That’ll be a way of establishing my relationship in such a way.”

So Mukunda… actually maybe I don’t if he said it at that moment, or that was the first, but somewhere, he first told Mukunda that he made the offense and somewhere he got the idea that “Maybe I should take initiation as one way of getting out of the offense.” and then Mukunda mentioned to him, to Pundarik that “He was doubting, or something, but that please you forgive him and maybe you should give with him your shelter.” Pundarika wasn’t particularly very interested, but you know, he didn’t take any offense. So then later, Mukunda approached Lord Caitanya. Actually Pundarika Vidyanidhi came and Lord Caitanya embraced him and was acc… uh, welcoming him and introduced him to all of the devotees and brought him right into the sankirtan party at Srivasa’s house.

At that time Mukunda told about this little pastime and how Gadadhara was having some doubt and then how he committed this mental offense and he was thinking maybe he should accept Pundarika as his guru. What did Lord Caitanya think?

Lord Caitanya said that, “Very good. This has My complete blessing.” and immediately on the spot Lord Caitanya arranged initiation uh, yajṣa ceremony and Pundarika Vidyanidhi initiated Gadadhara Prabhu and actually Pundarika Vidyanidhi is Vrsabhanu-raja in Krishna lila the father of Radharani, so the father of Radharani in Krishna-lila became guru-pita or guru father. Prabhupada when he wrote in his Passport, and when he wrote in the land deeds in Mayapur we purchased, he would write “Father” He would put “Guru pita.” Pita, of course everyone knows means father, he put “Guru pita, Bhaktisidhanta Sarasvati Thakura” So in that sense, then you’d also… would say that your spiritual… I’m your spiritual father, you’re my spiritual sons and daughters.

So in this way Lord Caitanya we see that in his pastime… Lord Caitanya, how the relationship of either father and Radharani or guru-pita and the disciple that the same relationship is being maintained in a different pastime. So of course Gadadhara Prabhu is so exalted that… of course, as an example he’s accepting a spiritual master. Everyone needs a spiritual master just like Krishna Himself gave the example, Lord Caitanya gave the example but you know that Gadadhara Prabhu is actually nitya siddha, nitya parsada, he is an eternal associate, so this is more of a formality he was already a perfected soul completely fixed in his svarupa siddhi or in the realization of his eternal relationship with Krishna, but for the sake of example he’s accepting a spiritual master and that spiritual master in Lord Caitanya lila is the same as Vrsabhanu was in Krishna-lila.

All the main associates of Lord Krishna again have come in the pastimes of Lord Caitanya. This is a wonderful… that Prabhupada explains to us that the devotees of Lord Caitanya they are able to simultaneously find the place in Lord Caitanya’s pastimes and Lord Krishna’s pastimes, so by engaging in the sankirtana movement of Lord Caitanya — by distributing books, by preaching, we are actually establishing ourselves also in the pastimes of Krishna automatically by being established in the pastimes of Lord Caitanya. You don’t have to independently endeavor, in fact when someone artificially tries to by some meditation or by some other type of concocted way some false imitation of the six gosvamis thinking “I’ll just go out and just by some reading or some meditation I’ll establish myself as one of the associates of Krishna in Vrindavana or as a gopi bhava or something like that…” One time, Srila Ramesvara Swami had to be very strong to stop some kind of type of sahajiya movement like that, and we heard, he got special blessings from Srila Prabhupada for rooting out different kinds of poison that can creep in. So, these type of tendencies are completely unauthorized, actually the authorized method was given to us by Srila Prabhupada as the preaching, in fact Prabhupada quoted this one poem of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura, My naughty mind, materialistic mind what kind of Vaishnava are you? Envious mind, what kind of vaishnava are you? And in the end of that Bhaktisiddhanta describes that the prana ache yara, se hetu pracara. That the reason why devotee preaches is because he has got real life, real spiritual life and that that is the symptom of being an eternal resident of Vrindavana brajavasigana pracara pradhana, that the wealth of eternal associates of Lord Caitanya, of Krishna is that they are anxious to increase Krishna’s devotees.

Their preaching mood is to increase the number of devotees, increasing the number of fallen souls who are restated in Krishna’s eternal relationship, in their original consciousness, that’s to please Krishna. It’s not for some material name, fame, position. It’s purely simply to increase the pleasure of Krishna and increasing the devotees and as compassion to help the fallen souls who are suffering because of their forgetfulness. Just like in the Bhagavad-gita, Prabhupada describes that anyone, you see, any pious person can come to understand Krishna, but there are four kind of demons, four kind of people who can´t surrender to Krishna: those who are the mudha, foolish like an ass, the naradhama, lowest of mankind, mayayapahrta jṣana, those who have lost their intelligence to maya and the asura bhava asrita, those who are in the mood of the demons, who are the atheistic mood, so that is a special pastime of Lord Caitanya that he was able even to deliver such naradhamas, such asura bhava asritas as Jagai Madhai, that even though Krishna said “These, unable…” “These four type of people are not able to surrender to Me.” Somehow there is a hope for even those four classes of people by the mercy of Lord Caitanya. There’s a hope for them, even though mainly they can’t surrender but, by getting the special mercy of Lord Caitanya’s devotees, by getting a book on Krishna conscious… if somehow or other they are able to at least accept it from… some way or another to hold the book, “Oh, their spiritual life has begun.” You see, if they are able to contributing something, they get… any of this is called sukriti and what does it say? Who can surrender? Su… That person who has got sukriti, that person who has got some uh, asset, you see. So the devotees are making the good fortune, making the good fortune for…

[break]

Most people thought, “Well he’s devotee, but maybe like a little materialistic devotee.” That’s why, you know, someone… Just like we have, I mean… Peter Burwash is a uh, tennis, you know, expert, whatever tennis pro, famous person, so Prabhupada didn’t telling him, didn’t tell George Harrison that he should give up their profession to become devotees but told rather that they should become Krishna conscious and then try to utilize their influence or their position or their profession, so in the same way Pundarika Vidyanidhi could’ve just gave it all up being a king but if you gonna be a king you can’t go around in rags. No one will understand. If you’re going to be a king or a big, like that type, Duke or Earl, whatever, that type zamindar, then you have to also have with you certain, you know, clout, a certain you know… otherwise people just don’t pay any attention, you know. You just… You’re just, part of the game. But what that most people are into it, they are really into… they’re identifying with that name, fame, with that… with but the fact is that Pundarika Vidya… didn’t identify with it at all.

It wasn’t that he was attached to it in any real level. It was just that this was part of like the… the game he had to play, the part of the role he had to play in that social position , but his whole heart, soul was simply how to utilize everything for the service of Krishna and the whole thing was… just like Maharaja Ambarisha. Maharaja Ambarisha was the king he didn’t have to… he had to accept so many kingly opulences and things. So I’m just trying to first, you know… just to get the point clear on him, you know. So, your point was that if somebody comes here and maybe opulent or something like that but they maybe be a devotee but we don’t know it?

Devotee: Well, maybe that. And (inaudible) we can make a mistake, you know, “Materialistic completely.” Not offend him in so many ways.

Jayapataka Swami: No, because I mean, Pundarik was chanting, he was following the principles and was… you have to see if a person is sincerely engaging in… otherwise in Krishna consciousness, you see. It wasn’t that… Pundarik didn’t have any other attachments, he had some opulence, you see, but he didn’t work for that opulence. He didn’t go out of his way to get it. It wasn’t like people say “I’m gonna go get rich and then give money to Krishna” It wasn’t like he had the idea that “I’m gonna just stop my devotional service for ten years, get rich and then when I’ll get rich I’ll give all the money to Krishna.” In the mean time they get completely enwrapped in fruitive activities and they lose the taste for devotional service. They get… develop bad habits and they go under… under the influence of illusion. Pundarika Vidyanidhi was born with the gold… with the silver… with like the… born with a silver spoon. He was born into it. He was already rich he didn’t have to work, you know, a day in his life for it. It just happened, so why give it up?

If somebody hands a million dollars and like Maharaha… uh, just like Ambari… our own Ambarisa, he gave us this temple. Prabhupada never said that “You renounce everything and became a sannyasi.” You see. That’s not our philosophy, so Pundarika Vidyanidhi, he didn’t work for it. I mean, he just had it, so he didn’t give it up, but even in an ordarinary vaishnava, they have the idea that “Well, this person because he has this opulence maybe he is a little attached.” You see, that’s a superficial… that’s… in India they think that way. If you are not really wearing your ripped cloth, maybe you are not a real sadhu. They don’t know about Yukta vairagya. They are impressed by phalgu vairagya by superficial renunciation.

So opulence maybe there but then we have to see, that whether… where the main flow is going. If the main thing is all being used for Krishna Consciousness, if the person is not having other, you know, not using the money for some other purpose, or not just uh, neglecting the others principles of devotional service, that should be seen. A person himself should… see, sometimes people doing business and uh, by regularly giving to Krishna there is… even there might be… there might be less.

It might be, “Alright, in the future you might make money. You want to give a lot of money.” But, one should continuously be in the habit of giving to Krishna otherwise you get out of the habit and then you just start getting involved in material fruitive desire. This is mentioned very clearly in the purport on the Gundica Marjanam, where Bhaktisiddhanta mentions in the purport about just getting involved in fruitive… even a devotee for good intention wants to engage in some business or some material activity, but their habit of working fruitivetly is so strong for millions of births that we can immediately just fall in to a kind of fruitive attitude.

You see so many people, even they make money a lot of them don’t give the money to Krishna consciousness, and then they start… they just get into trouble eventually by misinvesting. You know… well, for instance… like Hari-vilasa, who has made a very successful business in France, he is regularly contributing to printing all the Eastern European books and to so many projects. He has even given us a contribution for printing Bengali Bhagavad-gita and uh, there he is regularly giving, just right off the top from his… but then you see even Krishna conscious devotees, they make some business but then for some reason they don’t like to give to Krishna consciousness more than tokens. Then what’s the use?

Pundarika Vidyanidhi was not that type of devotee, that was a devotee who was putting out… that’s the type of devotee that he thought he was, that he was such a devotee. He was you know a little half devotee… had the opulence, wasn’t really doing anything for Krishna, just I mean… because that’s the way… just they assumed it was something like that, that he was like a kind of like a fringie, in our terms. That he was a devotee but not of the A class level. That was the offense that Gadadhara was making in his mind, you see.

So that offense we should be… beware of. You’re correct we shouldn’t make offenses just because someone may have some opulence, you see. We shouldn’t be envious of that, but we should see the where… if the person’s main devotion and attachment is for serving Prabhupada, then we should uh, consider that, you see. Like that you can find blemishes in the moon. Everyone you can find… if you wanna find something to complain about, you can find something always to complain about, you see. For some people, little opulence is a good preaching uh, you see… I may be one of the more simple people, someone else maybe more opulent, someone else be, you know. It’s all relative. That’s not a… The real standard is what energy you’re giving to Krishna.

Some… where you attachment is, if it’s to Krishna, to preaching Prabhupada´s movement, you’re giving all your energy, all your time that’s the thing we should judge. Or if a person uh, is able to use the position, all right, but if he’s, instead of that is being tied down by the position, is not attached to Krishna then that person himself should consider, and preachers should be very careful, because it is a more dangerous position, no doubt about it. Our tendency, when we have some opulence is to become attached. It’s a very natural tendency, and one has to be very advanced. Just like we can’t imitate Pundarika Vidyanidhi, we can’t imitate Ramananda Raya. We can’t imitate different devotees like that, that have these special qualities. We can’t even imitate the austerity of dasa Raghunatha. We can’t imitate the opulence of Pundarika Vidyanidhi, we can’t imitate the ability of Ramananda Raya to train the dasis in how to dance, you know. (laughs) You can’t imitate this. These are like special opulence that different devotees have, but we can understand from them that “Yes. Krishna consciousness can accommodate all kinds of situations, of all kinds of people.”

The main thing is whether you are attached to Krishna and whether the attachment is taking the form of devotional service, chanting and a… and uh, appreciation of other devotees, is that all right?

Hare Krishna.

Any else? Yes? Is he?

Devotee: I was wondering what happens if there’s a sankirtana devotee took… took from the collection and not give it to Krishna, just used it for himself.

Jayapataka Swami: Prabhupada said that’s drinking the blood of the guru. That’s the blood of the guru.

Devotee: Is that good or bad?

Jayapataka Swami: What do you think? (laughs) Pretty obvious, you see. Whatever… everyone’s taking from Krishna, so we do devotional service to give to Krishna. That’s the special… special facility of devotional service, that we… now we can give to Krishna. The people give us money to go to Krishna, we should see that it gets to Krishna. After that Krishna, giving us our cloth, give us our prasada, give us what we need. Prabhupada, he stressed in this point that uh, a person gives us a donation in good faith; whether or not we give it to Krishna he gets the credit. If he gives with that consciousness, now of course a person doesn’t give it with that consciousness then, if you give it to Krishna, he’ll get an ajṣata sukriti which is there, but if a person gives it with the con… that, “I’m giving to Krishna.” and then you don’t give it to Krishna, it’s your offense. Then you’re the break in the link, that person will benefit, but then you’ll be responsible that you don’t use it for Krishna, so we have to be careful to get everything to Krishna, and then once you get it to Krishna then we have to manage carefully. That’s what Raghava prabhu is doing it managing, that nothing gets wasted once it gets to Krishna. Srila Ramesvara Swami seeing it all gets to Prabhupada in the form of BBT, and printing up so many wonderful books, helping Mayapur project, Indian projects, Prabhupada’s samadhis.

Hare Krishna. How is everybody?


Completed on: 08-08-2014 Tags: Pundarika Vidyanidhi, Gadadhara Prabhu, identifying a devotee.

Transcription done by: Mahandini Radhika DD

Revised by Jagannatha dasa Brahmacari